Genesis 3:2-5. Instead, it encourages people to draw a distinction between what Scripture actually states and the inferences we make based on those statements, even if they are quite reasonable. Considering that each year subtracted from Cain and Abels ages at the time of Abels murder could be added to Adam and Eves time in the Garden, its quite possible that Adam and Eve spent many years in the Garden, which would make their sin all that more sorrowful. "Walked with God" is a favorite expression in Genesis, depicting the righteous conduct of Israel's heroes, including Enoch, Noah, and Abraham. Based on the sheer number of people who have claimed this, it must be found somewhere in the Bible, right? GOD'S WORD Translation. " (John 1:18) . To use your example, it would be like if people repeatedly said, The Bible says Adam watched the stars every night while in the Garden. Even if he did do that, the Bible doesnt say that he did, and it would be worth correcting someone on that point. God fashioned Eve out of Adam's rib (Genesis 2:22). This is a very good example of god walking with his people and his people walking with their god .look at 25:18 where off if you shall do my statutes that is live the way I instruct you to live that is walk in harmony with god then you shall dwell in the land in saftey.pleaseeeeeee this is why your argument is so trivial I have only given one example the whole book is showing how god walks with his people and how he expects them to walk with him read 26:11 and I will set my tabernacle among you 12 AND I WILL WALK AMONG YOU NOW LETS LOOK AT WHAT THE SCENARIO IS WHEN THEY ARE NOT WALING TOGETHER 26:14 but if you will not hearken unto me to not do my commandments( do you know that obeying the commandments is to walk with god)15 if you despise my statues or if your soul abhor my judgements so that you will not do my commandments BUT THAT YOU BREAK MY COVENANT I am not disagreeing and saying that Gods reason for coming was not to proclaim judgment, I am disagreeing by saying that we can not say for sure what Gods reason was for coming, Scripture doesnt clarify. Two things that they did see. But thats not at all what is going on here. But there is so much more to the story. The untold truth of the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve, according to the Old Testament, are the First Humans who ever walked on earth from which all humans descended. There may have been thousands of years, who knows? You are essentially appealing to an argument from silence. Im always amazed at how strongly some people try to defend certain positions. Hi Daniel, Do you think the lord actually cares if pastors are saying Adam and Eve did walk with God? Thanks for your comments. I agree that youre right to the extent that believers should be mindful to validate sermons, statements or stories from pastors. It is doubtful that God threw Adam into a confusing environment where he would be overwhelmed with the array of plants and animals. Thanks for taking the time to read and leave a comment. Conclusion. One of those commandments was as follows: "And the LORD God gave this command to Adam: 'You may freely eat from every tree in the garden, except you must not eat of the tree of the knowledge of . Hi Ian, Who is this that would kill him? Just read John 1 it says God was there in the beginning and on earth in the flesh so just read the book. My main point is that we dont go around saying that the Bible says that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, because that just isnt in there. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. Why would God spend time with them, because He loved them and wanted to share His love with them! I will make a helper suitable for him" ( Genesis 2:18 ). They may have done that, and I wouldnt have any problem with it. Adam fell because he freely chose to disobey God, but second because he listened to his wife who had also freely chosen to disobey. Now at that time there was an evil spirit called Satan. Again, nothing in Scripture tells us that they walked with God or carried on a conversation with Him. With that in mind, I would disagree with you on the reason you give for why God came to the garden that day. Keep up the good work. Maybe He was physically there throughoutthe short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts. Answer (1 of 22): Yes. What if they were some sort of Spiritual Being as God and his Son were at the time. I do however give a lot of thought when people preach/teach as truth that which is not written but surmised by man/woman to have taken place. What an absolute honor we have as human beings to be made in the image of the Creator and to be called to demonstrate who He is and what He is like. Thank you Michael. The Bible even indicates that God may have taken on a physical form in order to walk with Adam and Eve in the garden (Genesis 3:8). And 2 kids who wont hear it that way from Dad. But we need to be careful not to assert that the Bible directly teaches this. Therefore, We also should not assume that God was at their beck and call so that He would come around for a stroll with them whenever they wanted Him there. Theres no reason to think that they waited 60+ years to have children when they were already husband and wife and were created by God to fulfill the instructions He had given them, including be fruitful and multiply.. 9 GOD made all kinds of trees grow from the ground, trees beautiful to look at and good to eat. So Adam could eat of every tree except for the . The Hebrew Bible depicts Adam and Eve as walking around the Garden of Eden naked due to their sinlessness. Thank you and God bless you! My main point throughout has been to direct people back to Scripture to see what it really says. Thanks again for reading! I would take them apart and look inside to see how they worked. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden Genesis 3:8. But thats not at all what is going on here. This could be literally translated "the wind of that day." Some think this might refer to a strong wind. The NRSV's rendering makes the time more explicit, "at the time of the evening breeze" (also REB). We do see God speaking to both of them in Genesis 1:2830 when He blessed them and told them to be fruitful and multiply and told them to eat vegetation. The idea of God openly talking and physically walking with Adam and Eve is that God is interested in humans and want to develop a close friendship with them. Keep up the good work brother, the TRUTH shall be the only thing that sets us free. John teaches that Christ the second person of the Godhead is the Creator "All things came into being through Him, and . God told them, "You may eat fruit from any tree, except one. Haha very eye opening. I dont have a problem with people thinking that Adam and Eve walked with God (as I stated, they may have), but I want people to realize that the Bible doesnt say that they did. In other words, man had a physical body made from the ground. So what did they hear in the Garden? I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. The only possible biblical reference to walking in the Garden of Eden is found after Adam and Eve sinned. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. I would argue that angels are probably made in His image as well,. It was part of the sad deception that the man and woman who wanted so much to be like God, rather than obtaining the stature of deity, are afraid even to commune with him. The natural connotation, to me, is that God often did this, perhaps daily in the cool of the day, but what was remarkable this time was that man was afraid, because he had sinned. Why dont Adam and Eve know that God is with them at all times? It was perfectalmost. However, I also notice in chapter 2 that Adam recognized God speaking (commanding) to him concerning the forbidden tree. God has, in certain instances, revealed Himself in bodily form. Thanks for this article, it was an interesting read. Tell everyone with small kids! So no, I will not take down this post or apologize for it, unless you can actually show me where the Bible says that they did walk with God. WHY? They walked and talked with God. Anyway, Im very surprised I forgot to include a link to an article on theophanies that I wrote for Answers in Genesis. I dont recall a specific instance of this, but since the promised land was repeatedly spoken of as a land flowing with milk and honey, I take that to mean that their flocks would thrive and they would have an abundance of milk (in addition to honey and more). So comparing Adam and Eve to children who need to learn to talk, eat, etc. The Bible doesnt tell us how old Cain was when he murdered his brother, but it does give us a potential clue. With this particular issue, the reason I addressed it is because I hear it so frequently. ( Genesis 3:13-15) When looking at Genesis 3:13-15, there is no direct indication that the serpent had legs, only that its curse would be "on your belly you shall go.". Dont you think that Adam and Eve being new and first created that God would have been extremely close to them ? Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. However, were here to serve everyone without cost, so please dont feel obligated to give unless the Lord leads. I never really gave it much thought that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden.God can and does whatever He wants to do. But even that would not prove that He took strolls with Adam. I know when I say that Adam walked with God in the Garden, I mean to say that God spent time with them, not literally walking in the garden, God doesnt walk, He is Spirit! " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word . Your email address will not be published. I agree with your conclusion that we should not assume that God was at Adam and Eves beck and call, coming around for a stroll whenever they wanted Him there, or that God spent considerable time fellowshipping with them in physical form as friends do. http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png, https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/theophanies-in-the-old-testament/, https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747. Im pointing out that possible understanding of the text. Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. There were two special fruit trees in the garden: The Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge. Some scholars, such as J.J. Niehaus, have argued that the phrase translated as the cool of the day is better understood as referring a strong wind. I think this point has to be acknowledged regardless of whether you think the sound is God walking in the cool of day or God manifesting himself in a strong wind. However, that story or statement being preached wont cause anyone to fall into sin. Hi Tim, If you had bothered to read the post, you would have read these words: For those of you who are unaware, this one major question is mainly centered around Genesis 3:8 where it stated "Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the lord as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the lord God among the trees of the garden.". Tim, thank you for your commentary. I think you misunderstand what was meant by the possibility of God coming in the wind. Job 38:1 states, The YHWH answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:. I think there are two reasons why it seems best to conclude that God had walked in the garden before: 1. If that suggestion is accurate, then it would have been a physical presence of God coming in judgment, similar to how He spoke from the whirlwind in Job. Its not like Genesis 5:24 (Enoch walked with God) or Genesis 6:9 (Noah walked with God). Where is the specific support for this argument found anywhere in the scriptures? Due to the craftiness of the serpent, sin found its way into the Garden and everything fell apart. Because they nearly always cite the verse about Adam and Eve hearing the sound of the Lord walking in the garden. But why wouldnt the Israelites use the animals for sustenance-milk,meat,skins, etc. I just dont get your argument. (NASB) Gen. 3:8. To find out why God made you we have to look in the Bible. God Was Angry. The answer is that it was the Word, who later became Jesus Christ, that walked and talked with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. When the Lord made him on the sixth day, He commanded him not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. There is no need to attribute the work to me. I think your comments are valid additional arguments that could be used by those who favor that view, but as you seem to recognize (it seems to follow), the arguments are not watertight. Like your parents can be in the house with you and not in the same room but you can clearly hear them in another part of the house. It seems likely that many people have just remembered some of the wording in this verse and assumed that it says Adam and Eve walked with God. They were created with perfect bodies and were husband and wife on the day they were created. However, I dont see how your final statement about the garden has any relevance. Lets consider this for a moment? He claims that seeing Him is seeing the Father.. then I see no problem with Jesus being the physical manifestation of God walking in . I hope this helps. Adam and Eve got to literally hang out with God all day long, face to face. Remember that the Holy Spirit came at Pentecost with a rushing mighty wind (Acts 2:2). But Im not arguing that this is how He did appear. In God's sight they are like filthy rags. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden Genesis 3:8. Sincerely, That certainly could have been the case if God made a physical appearance (called a theophany), as He did in other places (e.g., Genesis 12:7; 18:1. 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, >>>>>and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And in Genesis 3:10 Adam heard that familiar sound (be it foot steps, voice, wind or otherwise) & hid. I dont believe this is a knock-down, drag-out argument, but given these details and many others described in my book, I believe angelic beings are very likely made in Gods image. Yes this is almost like apples and oranges because our parents are here in physical form but just trying to make a point and the Bible clearly says no one knows what God looks like except His Son . God then created Eve, "a helper comparable to him" (verse 18). God also provided quail for a whole month (Numbers 11:1920). This month we will look at Bible texts from Genesis to Revelation to reflect on what it means to walk with God. Hi Carrie, And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (Genesis 3:8).The use of the term walk with reference to God brings up the issue of God communicating to humankind in human language. Another potential source for this idea is found in the statements made about those who did walk with God. Seems to me there was plenty of interaction & communication between Adam (& Perhaps Eve) and God. Useful insights. Now turn to Chapter 4 of Genesis verse 13 Cain said to the Lord, My punishment is more than I can bear. But, despite the beauty of God's new world, there was one thing missing. Maybe He was physically there throughout the short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts., By a plain reading, Genesis 2:7 and 2:22c reasonably are inferred to imply that the place where God formed Adam, and then Eve, was a place some way *outside* of the garden (and this place likely being that of the shore of a river or a sea). Can a whirlwind fulfill those processes? So it seems there would have been little or no point for God to have EVER been in their presence in the manner that this idea assumes: actually relating to them in the ordinary manner in which one human normally would relate to one or more other humans. Could Adam and Eve have actually taken walks with God in the Garden? the Word of God walked in Eden. If you must doubt something, I think you would have to doubt that. I think your criticism of my article misses the mark. I have a problem with Christians continually repeating that the Bible says they walked with God in the garden because it doesnt say that. If we were to narrowly abide only what the text OUTRIGHT affirms of given things, then this inference would be patently erroneous or, at least, unreasonable. Of course, since I work in a ministry that emphasizes Genesis 111, Im going to hear it more than most people. It is like asserting that, since NO text in the Bible OUTRIGHT affirms that Adam ever saw the stars, then It is unwarranted to assume that he ever did see the stars.. Maybe their nakedness was not exposed genitalia, but realized they were naked in some other maner. Your entire post is irrelevant to the discussion because you are trying to show what it means when it says that someone walked with God. Thanks for the kind words. I believe the context of the above verse was a time when ADAM was NOT at enmity with God and they conferred with each other. In the plain reading of Genesis 1-3, we learn that God created the first two people: Adam and Eve. I think we both agree that God doesnt need to appear in human form to bring the animals to Adam or to perform surgery on him. Hi Nucc, God bless you. Why? I know its there somewhere, isnt it? Adam and Eve are walking around in the Garden of Eden, and they meet up with this serpent who asks them an interesting question: "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the . God appointed angels to guard the way back (Genesis 3:23-24). In my searching I found your website and I am so glad I did. Jesus is Lord God, He is the Son of God. Please do look it up, and if you find it, let me know, so I can apologize and correct this post. As I mentioned in my post, I have absolutely no problem with the idea that they might have walked with God in the garden. AMOS 3:3 CAN 2 WALK TOGETHER UNLESS THEY BE AGREED? (Posted on October 30, 2014, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349). Either way, prior to sin there was not a fractured relationship between God and man, but there certainly is as a result of sin. But even if that happens to be the right way to look at it, then it may still be correct to view this as a theophany. If He did or didnt is still and can always be up for discussion , its a gut instinct in me that says no but at the end of the day Im just glad Im saved and can sort it out when I get to Heaven! And I completely agree that where Adam failed, Christ prevailed. And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. I appreciate your effort Tim, thank you. As I mentioned in the conclusion of the article, it is certainly possible that the Lord walked with Adam and Eve, and if He did, then it may well have been the preincarnate Christ who walked with them. But God knew they had eaten the forbidden fruit. So Adam hears a sound, which he knows is the sound of God. 4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. Yes, I see that there are similarities, and I dont deny the possibility that God was present in the garden in a special way compared to the way that He is omnipresent. Gen 3:8 - Adam walking with the Lord God in Eden. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. But that isnt the point of what I wrote. However, the walk in these passages should probably be understood in a figurative sense. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden, surrounded by fruit trees and beautiful things. After all, they had not experienced or seen death as of yet. But this goes beyond them, it goes back to Adam and Eve.Adam and Eve had the privilege of being with God, the way that God had intended. Hi Warren, I completely agree that Adam and Eve had the freedom to obey or disobey regarding the forbidden fruit, but that doesnt really have anything to do with my point in this post. So it would not have taken long for Eve to conceive, yet Cain was not conceived until they were banished from the Garden.
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